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100321 - Reading #6 - pg 41
Welcome to week #6.
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No one came to the Sunday evening meeting - which is fine, it's not a requirement. I'll try it again at the end of April to see if there's a desire for it. Plan ahead for Sunday April 25th @ 6:30 pm.
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This week's reading is by Bernard of Clairvaux (1090-1153)
"Four Degrees of Love"
REFLECTION QUESTIONS
- Which of the four stages of love have you experienced in your spiritual journey? Describe.
- What are the motivating factors that move us from stage 1 to stage 2? Stage 2 to stage 3? Stage 3 to stage 4?
- In your opinion, which is the most common stage of love? Why?
- The write of 1 John proclaims that we are able to love becuase God first loved us. How does the love that God has for you enable you to love God? Love yourself? Love others?
- The fourth degree of love, writes Bernard, is a powerful moment, a sense of oneness, wherein we are "entirely transfused into the will of God." Have you ever been blessed by one of these special moments? Describe. Why are they only "temporary"?
Looking forward to your thoughts!
Shalom!
I feel the motivating factors that moves us from stage to stage is the desire to have a deep loving relationship with God and the desire to have the "perfect love of God". How wonderful would that be ! To do this, you have to accomplish the degrees of love. This could take years, as these degrees are challenging.
For me, the stage that I have experienced the most, and that has moved me the most, has been The Second Degree of Love: Love of God for Self's Sake. I have experienced God's blessing of protection in many ways. During storms in my life, such as separation, uncertainty of employment, etc., I turned to God and asked him for help, calling upon him in times of trouble. However, I sometimes feel selfish for always asking him for help when Im in trouble. Im very thankful for the many gifts I have in my life, and I say thank you for those in my prayers. I absolutely love the last sentence. I want to print it and post it on my fridge so I can read it every day:
"We love God because we have learned that we can do all things through him, and without him we can do nothing."
The fourth degree of love, writes Bernard, is a powerful moment, a sense of oneness, wherein we are "entirely transfused into the will of God." Have you ever been blessed by one of these special moments? Describe. Why are they only "temporary"?
There has been a lot of death in my life. Years back I had planted a garden, and as a gesture of remembrance to those who had passed I planted flowers, each person remembered receiving their own flower. One day as I was standing in the garden I reached out my fingertip to touch the soft orange petal of an orange Tiger Lily, and a sense of something wondrous passed over and through me. It seemed to sweep over the entire earth, yet passed right through my center as if including me amongst particles of the air. I became air. I was weightless, entirely free of burden, bodiless. An unexpected loving protection reached out for me, yet also radiated out from me. The crazy thought occurred that in that instant of protection the petal spoke to me of a life I barely remembered, but lived. It was a life that included the memory of time spent before Time. It was an absolute reassurance of Time to come. Then my earthly life, as if bracketed, passed before my eyes, as if the whole of it could be squeezed into a ring box. It was a vision of my life as a mere glimpse, as if it were a single breath weaving through an eternal sigh. As the petal spoke, it revealed just how beautiful I appeared to its velvet skin, and this made me fill with a sorrow I couldn’t explain. It seemed as if I was remembering living among the tall strong stalks and huge bright orange petals, as if I myself was a lily among lilies; and, I missed this life to the point of grieving, yet it was a thankful beautiful and precious grief that I would not trade. I have tried in vain to give a clearer description of this experience, but this is as close as I can come. It seemed, while it lasted, to last forever. Yet once it had ended it was as if an eternity had been enfolded into a single instant.
An awesome narrative - you have a gift !
You have a gift to describe something so beautiful that I can see what you are sharing in my imagination, even though I cannot imagine what that must feel like.
Shalom, Steven K.
What a beautiful experience and how blessed you are!
Thank you for sharing!!! What a wonderful read!
I have to start by saying that I found this week's reading much easier to work with than past weeks. That doesn't mean I agree with everything the author says, but at least I can converse with him. I read with interest the four degrees of love and found it quite thought-provoking.
I have some difficulty with stage one and that may just be a reflection of my skewed view of humanity due to my work, but I think that there are a fair number of people on the planet who do not love themselves. If they do, they would not do to themselves the harmful things that they do or engage in the behaviours that can contribute to harmful situations that they may find themselves in. My interpretation of the second part of great commandment is that you must love others as you love yourself. If you do not love yourself, you cannot love others.
The cynic in me says that the second degree of love is an example of the no-atheist-in-foxholes rule. When bad things happen, we're pretty quick to call on God for a rescue. But what do we do if we are not rescued? Do we never move on to the third degree? It seems to me that the third degree is the most common or am I misreading the philanthropy that many people engage in?
I think my overwhelming view of the whole concept of the four degrees is that a person does not proceed through the degrees in a linear fashion, but moves back and forth between the four in everchanging patterns (kind of like an intoxicated spirograph) at varying speeds and with varying lengths of rests at each point in the circle (each degree) throughout life. Until we find our final rest in God in a permanent fourth degree.
Diana- I think you put this perfectly. I think we can catch glimpses of this fourth degree, but I don't think we can know it for certain until we are there in that final rest. And as for the other degrees I too think we pass in and out of them as we walk through life. It would be nice to think that we could pass through one stage and move up to the next as a progression, but my experience has been otherwise. Possibly there are some who do make this journey in a linear fashion, but that would require, as you say, the ability to love yourself at all times which I think for many remains a struggle through out life. The four degrees of love is one among many ways to visualize a very personalized journey.